A Locomotive Mystery: Part III

A Locomotive Mystery: Part III

In this multi-part blog post, Photo Detective Maureen A. Taylor is tackling a yard long picture that someone showed her at RootsTech. Join us for Part III!

O.k. I can’t avoid it any longer. That big locomotive in the photo is the reason for the picture. On the side of the engine is a letter number combination. NEW-11-18-25. If that last number is a year then we have a likely date for the image. Everyone is in cold weather attire of wool coats and hats.

On the front part of the engine is written “Texas & Pacific.” I love when history falls into place. An 1871 Federal charter established the Texas and Pacific Railway Company to link Marshall, Texas and San Diego, California.

Guess what happened in 1925? The Lima Locomotive Works delivered ten locomotives to the T&P, which classified them Texas-type. That’s what written on a sign on the left hand side of the engine. “Texas Type Locomotives.” You can read more here. A local newspaper may have more information on this event.

I need a locomotive expert. I know you are out there. Train history is a very popular hobby. So let’s crowd-source the numbers.

Case closed?

Not quite. The big question for Clay Nunley is why this picture is in his collection. There could be a family connection to the railroad or Marshall, Texas. Only deep research into his family tree will solve that question.

The photo is in pretty rough shape. It’s on thin paper. The best thing to do with this image is to support it on a heavy piece of acid and lignin free card stock larger than the image. I’d also create a special size folder as extra protection.

The best, but expensive, course of action would be to hire a conservator to stabilize this pictorial piece of Texas history.


UPDATE: Our Family Tree reader Diana W. shared, “The T&P Depot shown behind the locomotive is in Marshall, TX. It was built in 1912 and is the only surviving structure of 57 buildings on 66 acres. It has been restored and holds a museum, tourist center, shops, etc. and is an Amtrak station. There are several pictures on the internet. Picture owner might be able to learn more from the museum.”.

Thank you so much for the helpful information, Diana!


If you missed the previous two blogs in this three-part series, be sure to check them out:

A Locomotive Mystery: Part 1

A Locomotive Mystery: The Clues are in the Hats

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  1. There is nothing mysterious about the image at all and NO Puzzle, incidentally there is no ‘Train’ in this image, only a locomotive, and it is not ‘nick-named’ but classified as a ‘Texas type’ indicating the arrangement of the leading small guide wheels /driving wheels/ and weight distribution wheels under the firebox and drivers cab. A ‘Texas’ type had o-OOOOO-oo, ie; counting the wheels on both sides it is a 2-10-4.
    It was built in Lima, Ohio by the ‘Lima Locomotive Works’ as ‘Texas & Pacific Railroad’ No. 600 – the first of the batch to be built, nothing unusual for the hats in that era, they are typical dress for young men and women in U.S. at the time.
    If the location of the shot was at Marshall, Texas by the photo studio imprint, it is most likely the initial delivery of this ‘Class I-1 Leader’ of a clan of loco’s that eventually grew to a roster of 70 of them, the last delivered in 1929. Marshall is a major junction on the T & P for Shreveport, Louisiana and Texakana, Texas this is quite likely the point the engine was ‘handed over’ from the builders to the T & P executive. The date is specific on completion at Lima, shown on the paint stencil mark as ‘NEW’ (not ‘XEW’ as you have suggested) on Nov. 18th 1925.
    The Texan local papers of Nov 1925, should pinpoint the exact event, the engines cost $100,489 each to the railroad. ie; ($1.49 million for the first 10 in 1925)
    Regards
    ‘Rusty-knucle’ (a Railroad coupling term)

  2. The T&P Depot shown behind the locomotive is in Marshall, TX. It was built in 1912 and is the only surviving structure of 57 buildings on 66 acres. It has been restored and holds a museum, tourist center, shops, etc. and is an Amtrak station. There are several pictures on the internet. Picture owner might be able to learn more from the museum.

    Pictures tell such fascinating stories! Thank you for sharing.